Interview with Dr. Kristina Hansen

Spotlight Series topic: Pain, Pee, Poop and Sex – Is something wrong with your Pelvic Floor?

Guest Name: Dr. Kristina Hansen

Guest Credentials: DPT, CEO

Discussion Details: Pelvic floor physical therapy is just about Kegels or the pelvic floor itself. In reality, we often spend more time looking at the whole person—how they breathe, move, manage stress, and use their body—because the root cause of symptoms like pain, leaking, constipation, or painful sex is frequently found outside the pelvis.

Benefit of Watching: Learn all about the pelvic floor and what good pelvic floor rehab looks like. A painful pelvic floor can get in the way of a lot of things and present in many ways —how we breathe, move, manage stress, and use their body—because the root cause of symptoms like pain, leaking, constipation, or painful sex is frequently found outside the pelvis.

Address of guest’s business:
4190 S Highland Dr Suite 221,
Salt Lake City, UT 84124

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Hi everybody. I’m Dr. Isaac Halliday, owner of Lodestar Physical Therapy. I am here with Dr. Kristina Hansen. She is the owner of Uplift Pelvic Health and Wellness in Mill Creek, Utah. Was the 2025 Best of Utah Mind and Body winner for pelvic floor therapy. She has a team boasting of over 40 years of combined experience, and Dr. Hansen and her Uplift team help people solve issues that no one wants to talk about—pain, pee, poop, and sex—through a holistic root cause care approach, so that patients can get back to living without fear. So welcome, Dr. Kristina Hansen. Thank you, Dr. Hansen.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I’m so excited to be here and to speak with you today.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: So glad to have you. I know we’ve kind of texted back and forth and chatted on the phone a little bit, but it’s finally like we got you. So welcome on, and tell everyone a little bit about yourself. You are a physical therapist, but you just do different things than I do.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Exactly, exactly, yeah. Think of it. If we go back to cellular biology, we came out as undifferentiated cells as physical therapists, and then we went on and differentiated. So I’ve been a PT for 20 years, and in that journey, I have done a lot of things, and I would say I was a jack of all trades until about nine years ago, when I had my call to action and dove into pelvic health and found what felt like my purpose, my calling. And at one point in my life, I was like, “When am I ever going to find it?” And pelvic health was absolutely it.

And along that journey, in addition to pelvic health, I also support those with dysautonomia, and so that very much goes along with Ehlers-Danlos. I came from the neuro world, so love looking at the interconnections of the nervous system, the orthopedics of the body, and the pelvic floor is very much a blend of that because so much of the pelvic floor is connected to the autonomic nervous system, so the things that our body does without us thinking about them.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: That’s awesome. Yeah, I appreciate you so much and like what you do because some people will ask me, “What do I do about this?” and I’m like, “That’s not my department. What about the pelvic floor?” Or like things when we lift, you know? And I’m like—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Exactly. That’s exactly who comes to us. And people are like, “I’m not sure. This is a really embarrassing question, or is this too much?” Literally, nothing is off the table to the point where if you have a conversation with me, I don’t know what normal conversations are anymore because it’s all good for me. Like, just bring it. Let’s talk about it. Let’s normalize it. Let’s help solve it.

And I think creating a safe space for people to share those things that they might not even tell their intimate partners can be really profound and really impactful on their quality of life.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Oh, 100%. And just, I don’t know. Like it’s just nice to have a place where you’re like, “Hey, I can just talk about things. No one’s gonna judge me,” and you can get to the answers that no one’s getting to because they’re just afraid to talk about things, right?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Absolutely. Like we all have a pelvic floor. Thank you. We all have one. So talk about it.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: That’s awesome. Cool. 20 years of experience. I thought my like 11, my coming up onto 11 was like—I say that, and now I’m like, “Oh, I’m just a little baby.”

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Yep, that’s about the time I started and pivoted to pelvic health, or added into my repertoire of things. Right, like everything becomes additive, and your toolbox just gets bigger, wider, and stronger.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, it does. Yep, that’s awesome. How many PTs do you got there now?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: So there are three of us total. Myself, and then I have two colleagues that I am fortunate enough to have on my team, and they’re amazing and absolutely incredible. So it gives us a really well-rounded opportunity to serve an even broader amount of people in our community, which is great.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: That’s cool. And just tell me a little bit about, or tell everyone about what pelvic floor therapy is, because I think a lot of people just don’t know, right? They hear pelvic floor, they hear, “Oh, Kegel, I do those,” right? But yeah, Kegels aren’t the answer most of the time.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: It’s actually very interesting that you say this because I think pelvic floor physical therapy and occupational therapy has been very popularized in social media, and so it’s given us a bigger platform. And I think our industry is growing faster than maybe other areas of physical therapy, and with that, there are more opportunities for people to segue into something that feels authentic for them to make a living.

And with that, pelvic floor therapy is at a little bit of a crossroads. So, pelvic floor therapy, if we just stick to what it is from an APTA standpoint—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yes, so—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Evidence-based for the last 40 years.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, it is—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Looking at the neuromuscular connections of the pelvic floor. So, actually, let’s just get out my pelvis. So, if we’re talking about the pelvis, we have our spine. The bottom of our spine comes down here. Then it turns into the sacrum, and then our tailbone. Then we have our pelvis, which is two halves, connects in the front at our pubic bone. So, our pelvic floor, the bottom of our pubic bone starts all of the muscles of our pelvis, and actually some of our hip muscles dive into the pelvic floor. And you probably can’t see this very well, but here’s an example of one that’s cut, and it comes in, and it literally attaches to the pelvic floor.

The only thing separating one of your deep hip rotators from your pelvic floor is a ligament. So what’s going on with the hip very much influences the pelvic floor, and then you can see the base of our spine, our tailbone has connections into the pelvic floor. So our spine and our hip are intimately connected with what our pelvic floor is doing. When we say when you go to pelvic floor therapy, typically that’s going to involve an internal examination. I think there are therapists that have been informed of the pelvic floor, but they’re not doing an internal examination. And I think to truly know what’s going on with the pelvic floor, you need to know what the muscles are doing. You need to visualize the skin health and what’s going on with the tissue.

So we get extensive training on the dermatology to the point where I was like, “I’m getting 12 hours of training in one course before I even went to the course on dermatology,” and I was like, “Why am I getting this?” It’s like, “Oh, because we’re the ones actually looking at these structures,” and that can be very linked to what’s going on with the dysfunction within the tissue or their symptoms. So, pelvic floor therapists are those that will do internal examinations. Now, of course, if there’s a person that is not open to that, it’s not safe for them, there’s trauma, there’s lots of things that are going on. We still have the skills and the tools to understand very intimately the nervous system connection, the neural connection, the muscular connection, its bony attachments, all of that.

So pelvic floor therapy, I like to think of the pelvis and the pelvic floor as the center of the system. The system being the body, and so the pelvic floor has a lot of functions, much more complex than, say, our bicep or tricep or our quad. Fun fact, at least according to the world, according to Kristina and her pelvic floor brain, our internal anal sphincter is so smart it has a receptor in there that can discern. You have a muscle that can tell whether you have solid, liquid, or gas, which is why for the most part, when you fart, you fart, and when you poop, you poop, and whatever else that way.

So, which is amazing to me. It’s like very mind-boggling how complex and how interesting the pelvic floor is. But when you come to our clinic, we’re not just looking at the pelvic floor. You may be walking in the door with a pelvic floor symptom, and think of that as like the end organ, right? Like if your knee hurts, you’re going to treat the knee. But if we were looking at the ankle and the hip and all of its interplay, we would be not looking at the whole system.

So the pelvic floor often is like the link connected to the whole body and what’s the reason for that symptom? For example, leaking. There’s different types of leaking of urine. It’s a symptom. It’s not a diagnosis. So we need to understand why is this body having this symptom, and what can we do to solve that problem?

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, that is—it’s a whole—that’s a whole different ball game. Yeah, totally. I answered it well—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Enough without being too controversial, but—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: So no, I love it. I love it. Yeah, no, I was like, I’m like, just keep going. I’m like, I’m learning cool things because yeah. Anytime someone mentions like, “I think it’s my pelvic floor,” I’m like, “Well, don’t talk to me about it because I don’t know anything about it.” So, like, I’m not that dude. So that’s fascinating.

And so, like by doing, like the internal exam and stuff, like what are you feeling for? What are you looking for? Like, what is—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: It? Right. And so, I mean, like—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah. Let me—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Try and simplify it as much as I can because there’s a lot of things that I could potentially say. We’re looking for skin integrity, we’re looking for reflexive activity. We’re looking for, does the breath connect? How are the core and the pelvic floor working together? How are the hip and the pelvic floor? How is spinal motion and the pelvic floor? And then specifically, what are the muscles doing? Right? Are the muscles contracting the same front, back, side to side? Are they relaxing as well as they’re contracting?

It’s a lot easier to know if your bicep bends and straightens because you can see what’s happening at the hand. But with your pelvic floor, and especially when you say, “Well, is pelvic floor therapy just Kegels?” If pelvic floor therapy was just Kegels, we wouldn’t exist as a profession, right? But what happens when they contract and let go and how does it contract? Because there are three layers of muscles, over 14 muscles here, and so some people are over-contracting the front, but you can peel it off, and then there are all these deeper muscles. What’s doing what?

And some of them are autonomic, meaning the nervous system, part of your body that does things without us thinking—heart rate, respiration, breathing, digestion. Same thing with the pelvic floor. If there’s a stress response, or we get stuck in a more upregulated, fight-or-flight type part of our nervous system, and that can also include fawn, freezing. You know, the things that aren’t parasympathetic, which is our rest and digest. That can heavily influence the pelvic floor, just like you’ll have somebody that comes in and they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I’m so stressed. I feel it all in my neck, my jaw, or headaches.”

And some people, I think there’s even a book that’s like The Headache in the Pelvis, right? So it’s just—it’s where is the nervous system having a response to stress, and how are they storing it or not storing it, but typically when I see patients, it’s storing it in the pelvic floor, or the pelvic floor is responding to that stress that way.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Interesting. What are like typical—this is like a loaded question. Like I know there’s going to be like 1,000 answers. Like what are like your typical patient that’s like, “Oh, this is…” I don’t know how to word the question. I just lost it.

But like the typical reasons why someone would come see you, like car accident, or is it like lifting issues? Like, you know, they’re lifting weights or like maybe they just—I don’t know—what are the most common things that you see that they’re like, “Oh, this is affecting the pelvic floor most”?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I think, right, right, right, and that’s such a good question because it’s yes, all. So you see pro athletes and that can be cyclists, that could be triathletes, that could be soccer players, your endurance athletes, your rock climbers—I mean, literally any athlete—and it can also be—you know—you don’t have to be a pro athlete. Could be the everyday athlete, the person who just likes to stay physically active.

It could also be somebody who’s maybe never exercised in their life. In terms of why they’re coming in, it varies. I mean, it’s all over the board. I would say if you pee, pooping, sex, pain problems. And so it could—and I don’t know how much I can say if this goes out onto social media—but either so there’s something called PGAD, pudendal or like persistent genital arousal disorder.

There can also be anorgasmia. They’ve never had an orgasm, or they can’t orgasm. There can be pain with erection. There can be inability to have an erection. Right. So, like erectile dysfunction. We can have all sorts of constipation issues, or fecal incontinence issues, or just impaired mechanics, not pooping the way you want to. Anything related to peeing, anything related to either—like there’s different types of pain with sex.

So it could be vaginismus, a spasming of the pelvic floor muscles where they can’t even relax. There can be dyspareunia, which is more of a global term, and then there are specific structures of the pelvic floor. Something—and I’m doing this as though you know what tissue—but on the back part of the pelvic floor, the vaginal opening, for example, this tissue is actually different than the vaginal tissue and different than the rest of the vulvar tissue. It’s called the vestibule, and so you can get something called vestibulitis, which is why doing an exam can give us that discernment of what’s specifically going on for those tissues.

And if you’ve ever had, say, a history of STD or a history of urinary tract infections. There’s also bladder issues that can happen, like interstitial cystitis or painful bladder syndrome is another thing that will be called. We now know from the evidence the number one grade A thing you can do for interstitial cystitis is pelvic floor PT. Less than two or 3% of people actually have lesions on their bladder. It’s typically something related to the pelvic floor and connection to the nervous system. Three quarters or 75% of the nerves that innervate the bladder are autonomic nerves. So again, what’s going on with the nervous system? So I dare say the nervous system is queen. And if we—so yes, we’re looking at the pelvic floor. We’re also looking at the nervous system and how it responds to things.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Also management strategy. So I don’t know if I answered your question. No, but it’s literally—it could be anybody. It could be an adolescent. It could be a young adult. It could be an older adult, middle-aged, senior citizen. Like pelvic floor dysfunction does not discriminate.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, yeah, and I like how in there he also said like it’s most of the time it’s an autonomic problem right to where like which means you don’t have control over it. It’s not something that just, you know, you’re voluntarily doing it, right? It’s just autonomic. It just happens. It’s automatic. So—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: So you think, what is the lifestyle you’re living, and how stressed are you? What is your trauma response to things? What historical traumas have you had? And maybe that’s present day. You were in an auto accident. You witnessed something really terrifying. It could be your home life. I mean, it could be. How does your body respond to whatever you’re experiencing?

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, and right. So if someone’s listening and they’re like, “Well, if it’s an automatic response, how does pelvic floor help something that’s automatic? Right, that you don’t have control over. How do you do that? So it’s an automatic thing, right?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Right. So that’s why it’s so important to come in and speak to somebody who is an expert in this area and figure out what is the driver for that person, or what are the drivers, and then come up with strategies. There’s a lot of education in what we do, right? I mean, that’s for all physical therapists, but it’s very heavy in education, lifestyle management, in addition to manual therapy and exercise prescription, right? Like we have lots of different tools to pull from, depending on what is, again, what’s the root cause for that person.

Which is why there’s a cookie-cutter prescription that we’re giving every single person. And there are some people that that works well for a period of time, but we also want to give people as many tools and as much information, so they understand their body. And if and when it comes back again, or they experience something down the road, they go, “Oh, I know this. I understand this.” I mean, I’m to a point where now I have patients that are like, “Hey, I think I can tell you it’s my obturator internus, and I think it’s because I glute clenched from when I was a ballerina,” and I was like, “Wow.”

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Because I want to give that information to somebody so they understand their body, so that they—we it’s definitely like a mind-body connection. Like I really want people to feel and connect and understand their body, and that’s not comfortable for everybody.

So, obviously we can meet people where they’re at, and there’s a whole scope of how do we meet the person in front of—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Us?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Yeah, what they want, what they need—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: And what their goals are, what all of that stuff. It’s like, yeah, yeah, I see that a lot too. Like in my patients who—we’re not pelvic floor. We’re kind of a general orthopedic, but some people have goals to go run a 150-mile race, and some like, “I just want to be able to go to work.”

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Exactly. Totally—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Different. Totally different end games, different treatment models, and everything. Right.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: And I’ve had some people that are like the second person, right? I just want to be able to go to work. I just want to be able to pick up my kids and run to the park, and then they can do that, and they’re like, “Well, and now I want to run a 5K or a 10K or half marathon. Like I didn’t know it could even be this good.”

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, totally. Yep, happens all the time, right? It’s just like they realize, you’re like, “Wait a minute, this is what a normal life is.”

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Yeah.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: I want to do more, right? You know? And it’s like that’s the fun part of our job, right? We’re—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Very lucky with what we get to do and how we get to serve our community and the problems we get to solve. Yeah, it’s a privilege all day long. I feel like there are so many days where I’m like, “I want to write a love letter to all of my patients,” that I’m just so—I feel so fortunate that I get to help and serve them and see the wins that they get to have. It’s incredible.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: It’s cool. Yeah. So then, how do you, as a pelvic floor specialist, differentiate between like, “Oh, this is a hip problem,” or “This is a pelvic floor problem,” or “This is a combination problem,” or maybe it’s like low back pelvic. How do you like just say, “Hey, these are the key indicators of like could be a pelvic floor, or it’s probably just like in the hip”?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Most of the time, when patients come to me, it’s usually a yes and. It’s usually not just one thing. Sometimes it’s all the way down to the foot mechanics. Like I literally just worked with somebody who has lumbar radiculopathy, but started out with a pelvic floor complaint, and we’ve now come to, as we get into the assessments, go, “Oh, it’s the ankle sprains that you had when you were an athlete in high school that then developed these compensatory problems up the chain,” and so it’s a yes and typically.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah. So if you were like—for me, if I had a patient, what should I be listening to to be like, “Oh, you need to go see—”

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Oh, that’s a great question. I guess if it’s going to be a person that has low back pain or hip pain and it’s not getting better pretty quickly, you’re not seeing the typical progress, and then maybe they are on your table and they’re like, “Excuse me, I need to go to the bathroom,” or they start to mention they’re having issues with either urination or bowel movements, or they start talking about issues with intimacy.

So I would say failure to progress at a typical rate, or those other symptoms.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Okay, yeah, and not just the—I get a lot of patients in the morning that always come in and go right to the bathroom. They’re like, “Hold on, morning coffee.”

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I mean, that’s fair. That is fair. I’m that person too with morning coffee. I mean, coffee—I love my coffee. I love coffee. So I’m not going to say anything negative about coffee. But it is a bladder irritant. It is also a diuretic, so it’s two reasons that can make you pee more. But it also helps stimulate bowel movement. So it’s like—it hits all of them. It gets things moving.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Yeah. But if you’ve ever had somebody on the table and they’re going to the bathroom a couple of times within an hour, that’s definitely something going on because really normal voids are two to four hours in a day, and I think it’s important to distinguish not more than that.

Also, because you could be going too often, but then we also have the category of like nurses, school teachers, surgeons, and other professions where they literally cannot go to the bathroom, and then they create other issues with their bladder from holding it too long.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, yeah, that’s awesome. So, like, I pride myself on how long I can hold it on a road trip.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I mean, a road trip is right. There’s always going to be—I’m like—

Dr. Isaac Halliday: No, I’m not stopping. I just filled up. I’m not stopping.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I have made it to St. George without going at all. Oh yeah! But now I have an electric car, so I have to stop, which is totally fine.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: I love it. Yeah, all my friends, every time I do a road trip, they’re like, “Isaac, we need a bathroom break.” I’m like, “No, no, I got three-quarters of the tank. We got 350 more miles to go,” and they’re like, “Let me out.” Fine, I guess we’ll stop.

That’s awesome. Yeah, what? I don’t know. What have we talked about—all the misconceptions I think that are out there? I think there’s a lot with it. Okay.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: So I think misconceptions is pelvic floor therapy is just looking at the pelvic floor. I think misconceptions are Kegels are the solution for everybody, or the pelvic floor therapy doesn’t work.

And unfortunately, it is a little bit of the wild, wild west. You can go to a weekend course and hang your hat and say, “I’m a pelvic floor therapist now.” If you take a level one course, that gives you permission to be in the room. It’s just—it almost is its own sub-industry, and it needs reverence and the training that correspond with that.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah, yeah, totally. And it’s not just for pre- and postpartum. It’s not just—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: For pre- and postpartum. It’s also not just for women.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah. No, that’s—yeah. I was gonna—that was on my ticket. Like men too, and you too both, right?

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Yep. Yep. Absolutely.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Love it. Love it. Yeah. In fact, I think I have a friend in Tennessee who does pelvic floor, and she’s like, yeah, she’s like, we see like—it’s almost—she’s like the men that come in. She’s like, it’s growing exponentially. Like the amount of it is—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Wonderful. It’s the word has gotten out in the last couple of years, and men are going, “Oh, I don’t have to live with this either.” Like, I think a lot of it’s normalized.

I mean, there’s even research particular to women with leakage, that it takes an average of about six and a half years before they even seek care for that issue. So, and I don’t know the data on men, but we’re definitely seeing a pivot, and they’re finally getting the care they need. And I would say if I think women are underserved in this industry, men are more underserved. But yeah, definitely seeing more, which is wonderful.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah. What about like speaking about men and pelvic floor? Like, what about prostate cancer, and then like they don’t have the prostate? Is that something that pelvic floor therapy—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because oftentimes there are consequences after having the surgery, whether they have radiation with it or without it, and so learning to re-coordinate those muscles and get pressure management and all of the things, and also just help with any of the scar tissue, and that tissue can tend to be pretty friable after radiation. So, absolutely, we—I love it when we can help that population.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: That’s cool. That’s awesome, man. This has been—I’m learning so much. I love it. This is so cool. Is there anything like anything we want to totally bring out that we haven’t talked about so far? Did we miss anything exciting? I think we got it all that we had planned anyway. I guess—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: I was just gonna—let’s see. I mean, I think just to reiterate that pelvic health is a whole-body type of therapy. The pelvic floor works as part of a system. Muscularly, it works because it’s supporting your organs. It’s providing stability to your pelvis. From a neural standpoint, 70% of the nerve fibers that innervate the pelvic floor are autonomic in nature. So we need to know what the nervous system is doing.

Also, we need to be thinking: well, if the pelvic floor is the base of the whole torso, what’s going on with the respiratory diaphragm? What’s going on with the whole rib cage, thoracic spine? But also, what’s going all the way down to the foot. So we know that if we’re missing great toe extension, if we have less than 45 degrees, that 3x’s the ground reaction force is going up through the whole kinematic chain. Basically, a fancy way of saying if your big toe doesn’t move well, it’s going to hurt your joints. It’s going to make it a lot harder for your pelvic floor to function.

So we need good pressure management, and we need good motion through our body. We can go on about the hips, we can go on about the T-spine, all of those things. But that’s why pelvic floor therapy is, for me personally, so fun because it is so all-encompassing, and you do get to zoom out. You get to zoom in. You get to zoom out, and you get to keep playing with it, which is really awesome.

And then people get lit up when they go, “Oh, that’s why.” I had a patient who had an abdominal surgery and had a scar, and from that scar ended up having a hamstring tear, and they never linked the two of those things together. And the pelvis kept pulling forward, which overstretched the hamstring. And then when she was rock climbing, she tore her hamstring, and finally we put all the pieces together because we needed to look at the skull and the abdomen.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yeah! Wow, that’s—yeah, that’s fun. That’s great. That’s fascinating. Yeah, yeah. That’s so cool.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: And I think that’s part of why I started this practice. I mean, the reason I started this practice was because I realized I was a travel PT for a few years. I’ve worked at a lot of places in our area, and most companies somewhere in their mission is patient-centered care. Patient comes first, and it was like an unveiling of actually health insurance comes first, corporation comes second, patient comes third, the provider comes fourth.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Yep. Yep.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: And I wanted more for myself, but really, I wanted more for my patients. I really want to solve their problem, and I’m tired of insurance saying no. You’re a knee. You’re a hip. You’re an ankle. No, an entire human being, and I want every person to feel seen, heard, and valued.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: I love it. How can somebody come to you and be seen, heard, and valued? Yeah. So if—

Dr. Kristina Hansen: You want to come work with our team, you can look us up online. Google Uplift Pelvic Health and Wellness. We’re in Mill Creek, Utah, right on Highland Drive, and you can also call us. Our phone number is 435-465-0657. You can also look up our website, which is upliftphw.com for pelvic health and wellness.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Awesome! Very cool. It’s been so fun chatting with you. My gosh, so fun!

Dr. Kristina Hansen: It’s so fun getting to chat with you. I feel like we could chat all day long. Thank you so much for the opportunity to connect with you. I really appreciate it. It’d be fun to do the same in reverse now.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Hey, let’s do it.

Dr. Kristina Hansen: Okay, perfect.

Dr. Isaac Halliday: Okay, awesome. Yeah, I’ll chat with you later. Okay, thank you, Kristina. Bye.